Nationality of voting members
Vidyut Fri 17 Jul 2015 7:18AMPublicSeen by 255I propose that since we are not currently with a goal of forming a political party, we are not required to restrict our membership to Indians. Nor is it stated anywhere on our website or constitution. We are networking with pirates from other countries, who are contributing their views and adding perspective as well.
In my view, community votes would not accurately reflect the consensus of all contributing thinkers here if they were denied a vote. It would mean equality within the community if we did not discriminate on basis of nationality among contributing members.
I do think that the subjects taken up in the community should remain restricted to those relevant to India - even when brought up by foreigners. We may look at some global issue - digital rights violations cross borders with impact very easily, for example, but it must be relevant to Indians.
Allow members of any nationality our normal membership levels
proposal by Vidyut Closed Mon 20 Jul 2015 6:37AM
I propose that we do not discriminate between contributing members on the basis of nationality, as long as the focus of the community remains on India and establishing a thriving community of Pirates in India.
Non-Indians contributing to the community but not being able to vote would essentially leave them unrepresented in the community. Not fair to them.
If we are not forming a political party from this group, we are not required to restrict membership - it is just an online group. Besides, none of our documents currently deny membership or voting rights to non-Indians, so it is an unstated norm, but not official restriction.
Results
| Results | Option | Votes | % of votes cast | % of eligible voters | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Agree | 2 | 33 | 1 | | |
| Abstain | 1 | 17 | 1 | ||
| Disagree | 3 | 50 | 2 |    | |
| Block | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| Undecided | 128 | 96 |                |
6 of 134 votes cast (4% participation)
Allow members of any nationality (continued)
proposal by Vidyut Closed Tue 25 Aug 2015 5:38AM
My apologies for creating the previous proposal with a very short closing date. Creating this new identical one for those who missed previous. We can consider both results together or those who voted previously can vote here again:
I propose that we do not discriminate between contributing members on the basis of nationality, as long as the focus of the community remains on India and establishing a thriving community of Pirates in India.
Non-Indians contributing to the community but not being able to vote would essentially leave them unrepresented in the community. Not fair to them.
If we are not forming a political party from this group, we are not required to restrict membership - it is just an online group. Besides, none of our documents currently deny membership or voting rights to non-Indians, so it is an unstated norm, but not official restriction.
Results
| Results | Option | Votes | % of votes cast | % of eligible voters | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Agree | 3 | 60 | 2 |  | |
| Abstain | 2 | 40 | 2 | | |
| Disagree | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| Block | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| Undecided | 128 | 96 | |
5 of 133 votes cast (3% participation)
Vidyut
Fri 17 Jul 2015 7:26AM
I think this is fair and in alignment with our principle of direct democracy that all members have voice and those eligibe to vote must be determined on merit and contribution and not identity.
Pirate Praveen
Wed 22 Jul 2015 6:32AM
Though I disagree, if majority of voting members approve, I don't mind.
Pirate PraveenFri 17 Jul 2015 7:36AM
Since our focus is India, I don't think people who live outside can understand our situation. They can already share ideas and this is not just a discussion group.
Pirate VikWed 22 Jul 2015 8:41AM
This issue effects me directly. I guess this is something that needs to be confirmed in the constitution whichever way this current proposal goes.
Pirate Praveen
Fri 24 Jul 2015 9:57AM
Though I disagree, if majority of voting members approve, I don't mind.
[deactivated account]Fri 17 Jul 2015 8:30AM
If we aren't looking to form a political party , i don't see any point why other nationalities should be restricted
Balasankar CSun 19 Jul 2015 5:09PM
I think it should be Indian OR living in India. First one server NRIs and second one handles non-Indians who live here.
Balasankar CMon 24 Aug 2015 5:44AM
Even though I would go with the decision of the group, I suggest to include
* Indians - Living in India or Abroad
* Non-Indians - Living in India
I don't see (yet) how Non-Indians who doesn't live in India can understand our situation.