Statement on the Babri Masjid judgement today
We could just collect good responses from people and echo it (with links) and add our own perspective.
"Listen. Don't despair. We knew this was coming.
This was a purely political judgment made by those in power. It does not change the truth. Truth is eternal and truth always wins.
Whatever has happened, has happened. We know we are right
Let's not be defeated or lose hope because if we do, we are giving them exactly what they want.
Democratic ideals may have taken a beating today but we'll rise again, provided we work towards doing so."
https://mastodon.social/@ParadoxicalPari/103106467727994002
Update: Moved to Associates sub group https://codema.in/d/3nO7zTXx/indian-pirates-statement-on-ayodhya-verdict-of-9th-november-2019-moved-from-main-group-
michael john sinclair.Sat 9 Nov 2019 8:18AM
In a thousand years some one wil view the ruins of the Temple and there still will be poor people with Hunger. Ideology without fact based evidence something i dispise.
Milind SinghSat 9 Nov 2019 8:51AM
It was issue filed in court and got a judgement, what other judgement you expect than the one actually there?
Pirate PraveenSat 9 Nov 2019 9:29AM
@milindsingh a judgement does not mean it is right or just even if it is the highest court. I hoped for justice, though I knew it won't happen with the current state of our country.
I'd like to quote another comment here https://mastodon.social/@Pandey_priyanka/103107004974127510
"what IF masjid was not demolished ..based on today's judgement would SC have asked govt to demolish it to build the mandir ..."
"what if people start destroying mosques that were built on previous hindu structures, does that then become legal based on today’s judgment? Does that mean destruction of some of our iconic monuments is completely legal?"
"The main beneficiaries of the Supreme Court's verdict on Saturday are organically linked to the main accused in the crime of demolishing the mosque. And that's not good for India."
https://thewire.in/communalism/supreme-court-ayodhya-babri-masjid-ram-janambhoomi
Pirate VikSat 9 Nov 2019 10:21AM
I say don't bother to expend further energy, its a divisive distraction used by two sides to extend their ideological arguments of the building that they both say god wants. Expend the energy on talking about air pollution instead it might actually help some people.
Milind SinghSat 9 Nov 2019 1:59PM
As if you okay with the 1000s of temple destroyed and built in mosques. No body asked you why there is no temple in madina?
Pirate PraveenSat 9 Nov 2019 2:40PM
Even if we agree that Babri mosque was built after demolishing a temple, how far back in history do we go? Do we check if the earlier temple was built after demolishing a stupa? Or someone's house?
This is a property dispute, not historical investigation into the first structure that was ever built at the site.
Pirate PraveenSat 9 Nov 2019 2:52PM
https://mstdn.social/@KavitaKrishnan/103107877399954960 Statement of CPI(ML).
michael john sinclair.Sat 9 Nov 2019 3:34PM
Jeruselam 2.0 ^ its my mountain, no its my mountain, fuck all of them, the mountain belongs to nature and not Humanity.
Indian Pirates Statement on Ayodhya Verdict of 9th November 2019
proposal by Pirate Praveen Closed Mon 18 Nov 2019 10:03AM
Since we don't have a consensus here, I will move this proposal to Associates sub group. Moved proposal to https://codema.in/d/3nO7zTXx/indian-pirates-statement-on-ayodhya-verdict-of-9th-november-2019-moved-from-main-group-
We endorse these reactions from a diverse group of people who are outraged by this judgement.
"Listen. Don't despair. We knew this was coming.
This was a purely political judgment made by those in power. It does not change the truth. Truth is eternal and truth always wins.
Whatever has happened, has happened. We know we are right
Let's not be defeated or lose hope because if we do, we are giving them exactly what they want.
Democratic ideals may have taken a beating today but we'll rise again, provided we work towards doing so."
Source https://mastodon.social/@ParadoxicalPari/103106467727994002
"Even though I expected this, my heart breaks. Also the amount of money that will now go into the construction of an ostentatious Temple. Just so tired of tax-payer's money being spent on statues, and temples, rather than malnutrition, stabilisation of economy, and climate control."
Source https://mastodon.social/@Paridhigupta/103106490733364276
"what IF masjid was not demolished ..based on today's judgement would SC have asked govt to demolish it to build the mandir ..."
"what if people start destroying mosques that were built on previous hindu structures, does that then become legal based on today’s judgment? Does that mean destruction of some of our iconic monuments is completely legal?"
Source https://mastodon.social/[[@Pandey_priyanka]]/103107004974127510
"The main beneficiaries of the Supreme Court's verdict on Saturday are organically linked to the main accused in the crime of demolishing the mosque. And that's not good for India."
Source https://thewire.in/communalism/supreme-court-ayodhya-babri-masjid-ram-janambhoomi
"Even if we agree that Babri mosque was built after demolishing a temple, how far back in history do we go? Do we check if the earlier temple was built after demolishing a stupa? Or someone's house?
This is a property dispute, not historical investigation into the first structure that was ever built at the site."
Source https://mastodon.social/[[@h_tejas]]/103108088242933609
To my mind, the court's mandate is not to rule in the interest of peace. It is to rule in the interest of justice. Ensuring peace is the mandate of law enforcement.
Source https://mastodon.social/@MitaliSaran/103112402716560688
Does it appear as if a majoritarian judgement was delivered within a majoritarian ethos to please the majority? Does it set a precedent? We have an ancient history when entire cities have been built on the ruins of other cities. (Delhi was razed and rebuilt seven times).
Roses are Red
Verdicts are Saffron
You can't escape
They'll come for everyone
Source https://mastodon.social/@SSangita/103109564886329416
So three findings emerge:
1. That the 1949 installation of idols was illegal
2. That the 1992 demolition was illegal.
3. No evidence that Babri masjid was build by demolishing a temple.
Who is the wronged and who is the wrongdoer again?
Source https://mstdn.social/@prasanna_s/103107498062351871
Orijit Sen says it all.
जिसकी लाठी उसकी भैंस
Might is right.
Source https://mstdn.social/@KavitaKrishnan/103108483828905988
Two mins silence for those who think BJP now is going to start talk about development and economy!
Source https://mastodon.social/@CZubair/103108994459686767
To liberals who think they're safe,
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me.
--Martin Niemöller
Source: https://mastodon.social/@gaikwadshogun/103109208682346983
Results
| Results | Option | Votes | % of votes cast | % of eligible voters | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Agree | 6 | 75 | 4 | ||
| Abstain | 1 | 13 | 1 | ||
| Disagree | 1 | 13 | 1 | ||
| Block | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| Undecided | 157 | 95 |

Pirate Praveen ·Sat 9 Nov 2019 7:31AM
Another one https://mastodon.social/@Paridhigupta/103106490733364276
"Even though I expected this, my heart breaks. Also the amount of money that will now go into the construction of an ostentatious Temple. Just so tired of tax-payer's money being spent on statues, and temples, rather than malnutrition, stabilisation of economy, and climate control."