FSCI Services accounting
As part of 2023 funding campaign, the financial records of FSCI services has been consolidated.
Currently data is available for poddery.com (including the monitor), lists.fsci.in, codema.in, meet.fsci.in and videos.fsci.in. The exchange rates are taken as an average for the year of the invoice and whenever possible average for the month the invoice is generated. services running on old codema and monitor server are migrated to other existing and servers and old servers were discarded.
Services
Poddery.com - fsci hetzner account, payment from Sruthi's account.
Lists.fsci.in - Abhijith (bhe)'s scaleway account, payment from his own account.
git.fosscommunity.in (now sponsored by Infomaniak) - fsci gandi account, payment partly from Praveen's account (apart from GitLab sponsorship).
Monitor.fsci.in (discontinued and websites migrated to new server sponsored by Manu)
Codema.in (service migrated to meet server)
Meet.fsci.in - Kiran's hetzner account
Videos.fsci.in - Kiran's hetzner account
Camp.fsci.in, privacyyathra.in websites - Server provided by Manu
Yearly report
All amounts are in rupee. git.fosscommunity.in is not tracked because its hosting is now sponsored by Infomaniak.
Balance after 2022
Funding Campaign 2022: 23050
Poddery: -51721.31
Codema: -9737.82
Meet: 19356.41
Videos: -4419.73
Lists: 4794.42
Total: -18678.03
2022 Income & Expense
Expense for 2022: 56976.95
Income for 2022: 48944.06
Deficit for 2022: 8032.89
Expected Costs for 2023
Poddery: 37000
Codema+Meet+Wiki: 8000
Videos: 9000
Lists: 6000
Total: 60000
Expected Costs for 2024
Poddery: 40000
Codema+Meet+Wiki: 9000
Videos: 11000
Lists: 7000
Total: 67000
Campaign Target
2023 Campaign Target: 145678.03
After rounding off: 150000
Conclusion
We are in a negative balance of -18678.03 ₹ in total. We need to set the campaign target considering the present negative balance and annual expense. For two years, the campaign target will be 150,000 ₹ (1842.64 $/1701.84 €).
Those who want to donate, please visit https://fsci.in/donate/
NB: The post will be updated with getting more data.
sahilister Sun 16 Jan 2022 2:42PM
Meeting minutes of 16/01/2022
Agenda - Discuss resource usages and scaling down for services.
attendees - Bady, Kannan, Pirate Praveen, Ravi, sahilister
Pointers
Resources users for all the services discussed.
Scale down meet.fsci.in to CPX21 from earlier CPX31. @sahilister to install jitsi.
Merge codema.in into meet.fsci.in after scaledown. @Pirate Bady to do it.
Migrate camp websites to meet.fsci.in server
@Kannan V M to contact scaleway opensource program
@Kannan V M and @Pirate Bady to talk to Kiran for scaledown
Moniter to be disposed.
Pirate Bady Fri 18 Feb 2022 2:34PM
we haven't shut down monitor service yet. in a recent discussion with @suman, he said he is happy to volunteer to maintain the service and also suggested the idea of enabling notifications for resource throttling. but if we're continuing the service, i think we'll have to migrate it to hetzner to reduce expenses.
Sajith Sasidharan Wed 9 Mar 2022 3:03PM
Not sure this is the right place to report this, but: I was looking around and saw that https://wiki.fsci.org.in is someone's personal site. That doesn't look right.
Pirate Praveen Wed 9 Mar 2022 5:06PM
This happened while the server was migrated. We are aware about it, but we could not fix it yet. In general, we don't have enough volunteers to take care of all the services we manage. We will have to on board more volunteers or shut down some of the services.
Pirate Praveen Wed 9 Mar 2022 5:09PM
Specifically, the DNS seems to be misconfigured and multiple IP addresses are resolved for this domain making let's encrypt certificate process to fail. Volunteers to fix this welcome.
Sajith Sasidharan Wed 9 Mar 2022 9:42PM
I can take a look, but I am new here (which means I am yet to establish trust with everyone here and I am very unfamiliar with the processes) and someone will have to onboard me. Presumably that someone who will onboard me should be able to fix the problems quickly on their own, no?
If an additional pair of hands is welcome regardless, I'm available. :-)
It seems that https://git.fosscommunity.in also is broken, with 500 errors. Both wiki and git sites are prominently linked from https://fsci.org.in, so this is less than ideal. If they are unused and unmaintained, perhaps it might be better to retire them both?
Pirate Praveen Thu 10 Mar 2022 6:33AM
git.fosscommunity.in issue is new (I will check). And about expertise, it not only about if one person can fix, but availability of time is an issue too. So more hands is always welcome.
Pirate Praveen Thu 10 Mar 2022 6:57AM
Not running any service is the 100% guaranteed way of not having problems :) Only when things don't work people come up and volunteer so having things not working for some time is unfortunately required for us to get new volunteers :( but yes, we should think, plan and shut down services when we don't have enough volunteers.
Pirate Praveen Thu 10 Mar 2022 6:59AM
For git.fosscommunity.in, the disk was full. It should be back soon.
Kannan V M · Sun 26 Dec 2021 6:33PM
Meeting minutes
Campaign strategies; how and where.
The total fund collected will be to fill the existing negative balance and two year service expenses.
There will be option to fund individual services or FSCI as whole.
The fund collected for FSCI will be split and shared to individual services or for un attended renewals for domains. A formula for splitting has to be derived.
The priority will be to get funding for next year and recover already negative amount.
Domains funding will be seperate from general funding campaign.
Unless there are no other platforms available, there will be a seperate funding web page for contributor to enter transaction ID and to where their fund goes.
The possibility of using Open collective with the support of navodaya as host for collecting fund has to be explored.
Following platforms can be used for campaigns
Advertising on our services
Peertube videos
Other free software groups
Asking people perosnally
Colleges and schools
What to do with services that aren't funded enough has to be discussed.
Campaign targets; amount and time.
The campaign will run all through the year, where it restarts on next year
Targets for individual services (All amounts are in Rupees)
poddery.com
Negative balance: 28962
Average yearly expense (rounded off): 30000
Two year expenses (+ contingency + inflation): 75000
Total: 103962
lists.fsci.in
Negative balance: -
Average yearly expense (rounded off): 4000
Two year expenses (+ contingency + inflation): 9500
Total: -
codema.in
Negative balance: -
Average yearly expense (rounded off): 4000
Two year expenses (+ contingency + inflation): 9500
Total: -
video.fsci.in
Negative balance: -
Average yearly expense (rounded off): 5500
Two year expenses (+ contingency + inflation): 12500
Total: -
meet.fsci.in
Negative balance: -
Average yearly expense (rounded off): 5500
Two year expenses (+ contingency + inflation): 12500
Total: -
FSCI
Total: -
Account handling and distribution for FSCI services.
The possibility for working with Navodaya will have to be communicated.
Till then personal account(s) can be used.
Kannan and Snehal volunteered to handle funding
Requirement for an organization for account handling.
This can be filled by coordinating with Navodaya
Domains management
Manu is handling 9 domains
7 .in domains (Rs. 640) and 2 .org.in domains (Rs. 460)
Todo
Praveen will communicate with Navodaya team
Migration and maintenance
2 vps handles backup should be migrated to a new instance
codema.in migration to Hetzner
poddery.com audit and scaledown if necessary
monitor.fsci.in migration to meet.fsci.in server
saakhi loomio instance disposal
Update current funding status on website
Look at possibility for scaleway open source credits - https://www.scaleway.com/en/about-us/open-source-program/
Setup funding website for fsci