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[Proposal] Switch to P2P based Communication Channels

Karthik Wed 23 Mar 2022 5:02PMPublicSeen by 101

We should use P2P messaging protocols / platforms as our primary communication channels (like jami / briar) & have minimal presence on Web 2.0 platforms (website just for letting the world know about our existence, like the current fsci.in). Even matrix is making ways towards p2p architecture.

P2P protocols give user more anonymity, freedom & control over their data than any existing alternatives

Our Requirements:

  1. Cross Platform (mobile & desktop)

  2. Group chat

  3. file sharing

  4. Voice / video calls

Currently Evaluating This list of Messengers, Feel free to add more...

Name

URL

Drawbacks

Jami

https://jami.net/

No group Chat

Briar

https://briarproject.org/


Tox

https://tox.chat/

UI is not good. Group chats are in infancy

Pirate PraveenWed 23 Mar 2022 5:25PM

I don't think p2p can be a drop in replacement right now. We tested briar, it can only send a message if both persons are online. When it matures, we can consider it.

Primary Choice of P2P Messenger for FSCI Presence.

poll by Karthik Closed Sat 30 Apr 2022 6:00PM

Results

Pirate BadyThu 31 Mar 2022 6:05AM

@Karthik 3 days poll time may be too short for people to respond, i suggest to make it at least 1 week. also i guess the poll is not about "switching" as it says in the thread title, right? in that case, i think there's already some group/room (or whatever it is called) in briar (created by @Ravi Dwivedi or @Pirate Praveen i think). i had joined it, but as usual i forgot the credentials of briar app and there's no way to reset the password.

Ravi DwivediThu 31 Mar 2022 1:58PM

3 days poll time is short. This type of poll time is usually given to statements that we need to release on urgent basis, maybe like reaction on WhatsApp privacy policy change etc.

Yes, FSCI already has a briar group, which, as far as I know, nobody uses.

Also, if we don't switch to the p2p option like Jami or Briar, then we will have two different discussion groups(one will be interconnected via IRC/Matrix/XMPP and another on Briar/Jami). Is it fine to have two separate groups?

KarthikWed 6 Apr 2022 2:59AM

Life is TetrisSun 1 May 2022 7:36AM

I feel this proposal was thin on motivation. If it is OK, that can be worked out in separate threads.

Life is TetrisMon 2 May 2022 7:11PM

Against Jami, from the libreserver a.k.a freedombone dev - good point, I think.

https://blog.libreserver.org/epicyon-development-april-2022

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> Support for Jami has been deprecated. This is because it's usernames require the use of Etherium. When Etherium no longer uses proof-of-work then this change could be reversed, but until that time I don't consider it to be a good idea to promote systems which deliberately waste electricity.

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