Contact Tigase to publish a variant of Siskin IM as Prav iOS
Pirate Praveen Thu 17 Sep 2026 7:46PMPublicSeen by 8Apple only allows same developer to publish similar apps (Thilo could publish both Monal and Quicksy, but Prav based on Monal was rejected twice, second time after Quicksy was removed). Siskin was our second best option after Monal.
I have drafted the letter here, please review.
https://pad.fbin.in/p/tigase-prav
If they also refuse, we will have to build an app from an xmpp library - ui would be different but xmpp core logic will be shared.
Ask Tigase to publish Siskin IM variant as Prav iOS
proposal by Pirate Praveen Closed Thu 24 Sep 2026 7:00PM
Thanks for participating in the consent process.
Since no one objected we can ask Tigase, if Thilo don't reply in two weeks.
@Ravi Dwivedi please send this after two weeks if we don't get a positive reply from Thilo.
What is the decision you need to make?
Ask Tigase to make Prav iOS based on Siskin IM. We may have to pay them as they need to do extra work to build/publish prav.
Why is this important?
Apple did not allow us to publish Prav based on Monal, Thilo also refused to publish it.
What are you asking of people in this proposal?
Support this proposal, so we can have Prav on Apple App Store. Its even more important than before since Quicksy is removed from App Store.
We're not aiming for perfection — give your consent if the proposal is good enough and safe to try. If you have an objection, say what needs to change to make it workable.
Results
| Results | Option | Votes | % of votes cast | % of eligible voters | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Consent | 3 | 100 | 27 |  | |
| Objection | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| Undecided | 8 | 73 |      |
Pirate Praveen
Thu 17 Sep 2026 7:51PM
This is better utilization of resources than building Prav from an xmpp library. Even if we have to raise funds to pay Tigase, it'd support a company committed to XMPP. Apple's policy means we can't publish a fork ourselves. It has to be either Tigase or we build our own app.
Pirate PraveenTue 27 Oct 2026 3:32PM
@Ravi Dwivedi can you write to Tigase now?
Ravi DwivediFri 30 Oct 2026 10:54AM
@Pirate Praveen Sure. Do we have a draft?
Pirate PraveenSun 1 Nov 2026 1:25PM
@Ravi Dwivedi https://pad.fbin.in/p/tigase-prav this was already in the thread topic.
Pirate Praveen ·Fri 18 Sep 2026 11:43AM
I was talking to @muzirian and he suggested asking Thilo again since Quicksy is removed now. We can try to convince him about the need for SMS otp based sign up. The only problem with Quicksy was the high SMS bill, we are still committed to fight this fraud.