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Tue 18 Aug 2020 5:29PM

Citing business reasons, Facebook opposed action on BJP-linked hate posts: WSJ report

PP Pirate Praveen Public Seen by 44

As reported by WSJ, Facebook is biased towards ruling party. This was inevitable as expecting a profit making corporation to be fair when their profits are at stake is naive. We should instead ask people to boycott such centralized social media platforms and instead switch to federated social media like mastodon, diaspora, matrix and XMPP, which are not controlled by a single entity and you can find instances not motivated by making profit from data of its users (if we don't find any existing instance matching our expectation, we even have an option to start our own).

Indian Pirates already run our own instances of Diaspora, Matrix and XMPP at https://diasp.in

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/facebook-action-on-bjp-hate-posts-business-reasons-6556552/

https://thewire.in/tech/facebook-hate-speech-bjp-wall-street-journal

https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-hate-speech-india-politics-muslim-hindu-modi-zuckerberg-11597423346 (need subscription)

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Poll Created Tue 18 Aug 2020 5:42PM

Publish this statement on our website Closed Tue 25 Aug 2020 6:00PM

Outcome
by Pirate Praveen Mon 31 Aug 2020 6:37AM

Requested website team to publish it https://gitlab.com/piratemovin/piratesite/-/issues/15

[Draft - suggest changes as comments]

As reported by Wall Street Journal, Facebook is biased towards ruling party in India[1][2][3]. This was inevitable as expecting a profit making corporation to be fair when their profits are at stake is naive. So we are asking people to boycott such centralized social media platforms like Facebook and WhatsApp which has a really bad track record when it comes to privacy of the users or influencing political choices of users or siding with ruling parties. We recommend switching to federated social media like mastodon, diaspora, matrix and XMPP. These are not controlled by a single entity and you can find instances not motivated by making profit from data of its users. If we don't find any existing instance matching our expectation, we even have an option to start our own.

Indian Pirates already run our own instances of Diaspora, Matrix and XMPP at https://diasp.in

[1] https://indianexpress.com/article/india/facebook-action-on-bjp-hate-posts-business-reasons-6556552/

[2] https://thewire.in/tech/facebook-hate-speech-bjp-wall-street-journal

[3] https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-hate-speech-india-politics-muslim-hindu-modi-zuckerberg-11597423346 (need subscription)

Addition on 19 August: How moderation and blocking hate speech works in a decentralized social media?

There are many interconnected/interoperable instances or service providers speaking the same protocol (much like email and telecom service providers) with each run by different people, organizations or groups. We have a choice of service providers matching our political positions. Many of these service providers are not motivated by profits from user data, have a track record of standing up for privacy/free speech, or financially supported by users. If we find any of our services providers are not living up to their promises, we have a choice of moving to a different provider without losing any of our contacts (like how we port our mobile numbers). In case of centralized platforms like Facebook motivated by profits from user data, we have no choice to move to a different provider without losing our existing network or keep them accountable to their own policies. Decentralized platforms cannot eliminate hate speech completely, but they can help us reduce reach and influence of hate speech. It gives more power to every user to decide how much of opposing views they want to hear - from accepting all speech to blocking all content they don't like, the choice is ours.

Addition on 19 August: When we boycott Facebook, we reduce the power and influence of Facebook and make it effectively a private group of right wing supporters. When we switch to decentralized media, we don't give up on the benefits of using social media for organizing ourselves.

Addition on 22 August: Suggestion by Bady.

Add links to mentioned projects. We can also mention our email address for people who want to now more.

[4] https://joinmastodon.org/
[5] https://diasporafoundation.org/
[6] https://matrix.org/clients/
[7] https://xmpp.org/software/clients.html

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 80.0% 4 EN KVM PP PB
Abstain 20.0% 1 PK
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 168 V A D K DU DU MK SK NV BC FGP AR AK AG AKS RD J KAK SK S

5 of 173 people have participated (2%)

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Pirate Bady
Agree
Sat 22 Aug 2020 6:38PM

added a couple of suggestions

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Pirate Praveen Wed 19 Aug 2020 12:44PM

Added a section about moderation and content blocking in decentralized social media based on https://aana.site/@kannan/104712473599361117

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Pirate Bady Sat 22 Aug 2020 6:32PM

it'll be better to add references to the alternatives mentioned as they may not be familiar for many.

We recommend switching to federated social media like Mastodon[4], Diaspora[5], Matrix[6] and XMPP[7]"


[4] https://joinmastodon.org/
[5] https://diasporafoundation.org/
[6] https://matrix.org/clients/
[7] https://xmpp.org/software/clients.html


It'll also be better to share our contact info to help people who want to know more about/help in switching to these alternatives.

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Pirate Praveen Sat 22 Aug 2020 7:05PM

That is a good idea, I will include this in the proposal.

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Pirate Bady Tue 8 Sep 2020 3:48PM

RD

Ravi Dwivedi Thu 18 Feb 2021 6:17PM

Add link to https://fsf.org.in/article/better-than-whatsapp/ when mentioning about matrix and XMPP. That would give them detail on why they should choose matrix and XMPP. Further you can link to this article too https://fsci.in/blog/reclaim-privacy-messengers/