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Thu 7 Sep 2023 12:19PM

Discussion for Future of diasp.in

S sahilister Public Seen by 77

We plan to discuss the future of diasp.in today at 7 PM on the sideline of DebCamp23, as most people are present here. Venue would be noisy hacklab on 2nd floor.

Points we want to discuss:

i) if keeping around is worthwhile

ii) maintainer ship + sponsorship. For now it cost around 3500 INR/month which is borne co-borne by rajudev and me. Also we have domain cost. Last renewal was sponsored by abbyck

iii) we are also considering sunsetting the service with 31st Dec end period.

TODO list

  • website homepage (big banner)

  • with a dedicate page

  • Personal accounts (praveen)

  • FSCI rooms

  • FSCI blog

  • diasp.in diaspora

  • IB computing 

  • FOSSUnited

  • ILUGs

  • NSS Palakkad

  • VGLUG

  • DAKF

  • SMC blog

  • header on diaspora every page

  • send to all synapse and prosody users if possible

  • also to all diaspora users

S

sahilister Thu 7 Sep 2023 4:33PM

Date : 7/9/2023

Attendee : Pirate Praveen, Sahil Dhiman, Pirate Bady, Akhil Varkey, Renjith Siji, Ravi Dwivedi, Yashraj Moghe, Abhijith Balan, Abhijith PA, Aravinth Manivannnan, Raju Vindhane

Minutes : 

    Sahil explains diasp.in.

    There is no correct estimate of active users.

    There is no complaint when services go down.

    There is a lot of cost associated with maintaining the service - INR 3,500 per month.

    Sahil is suggesting  that we post in public that we are going to shut it down.

    Praveen is suggesting that we initially give call for volunteers in public and then we shut it down.

    Both maintenance and bearing cost are issues

    If new maintainers come, they can get started easily - Sahil.

    One month to announce shutdown, one month to look for a different maintainer.

    If volunteers come in we can apply for funding.

    Praveen suggests reopening registration to invite new users - if we get volunteers for spam handling and server maintenance.

Timeline 

  • 31st October: last date for anyone to take up stuff. If no one does it. 

  • 31st January - shut down services

  • 28th Feburary - delete the machine

# Action 

  • To put it out everywhere

  • Tomorrow, 7 PM for planning campaign

S

sahilister Fri 8 Sep 2023 3:04PM

Diasp.in Work team meeting

Date - 8th September on the sideline of DebCamp23

Attendee - raju, praveen, bady, sahilister, sourabhtk37, ranjith

Places to post in

  • website homepage (big banner)

  • with a dedicate page

  • FSCI rooms

  • FSCI blog

  • IB computing 

  • FOSSUnited

  • ILUGs

  • NSS Palakkad

  • VGLUG

  • DAKF

  • SMC blog

  • header on diaspora every page

  • send to all synapse and prosody users if possible

  • also to all diaspora users

Action Items

  • PRINT AND PUT IN DEBCONF AREAS. Write the content of the call (intro to diasp, what we're doing, why, problem, plans,). Things people need to take up (technical details/task list)ebc - HOW TO CONTACT EMAIL AND MATRIX

  • Short 2-3 line summary to go with channel posts

  • Ways to push it to prosody user (praveen)

  • Ways to push it to synapse user (sahilister)

  • Documentation for server access. STEAL FROM FSCI WIKI, ADD TO DIASP.IN WIKI (sahilister)

  • Website (rajudev) by tomorrow night

  • banner addition on top

  • separate call for help page

  • separate credit page

  • removal of logos from footer

  • LATER - Call for sponsorship (only after above is successful ^ )

  • LATER - Anti-spam measures and clean up. ADD TO POST AS TASK LIST

  • LATER - (if possible) of just diaspora* public post archive. ADD TO POST AS TASK LIST

  • LATER LATER - migrate auth away from diaspora*. Sunset diaspora*. 

Timeline

  • 8 September - Intro writing and putting it around. Also write short 2-3 line summary

  • 9 September - publish page on website by night

  • 10 September - for prosody and synapse direct user push 

  • 31 October - deadline for showing up, evaluate

  • 31 January - close date

  • 28 Feb - delete server

Sunset period action items

  • Archive public diaspora* posts

  • Announce pirateIRC <-> matrix bridge closer to pirate IRC and matrix.org people

  • Take data dump and store for atleast 6 months

SV

Satan Vysakh Sun 24 Sep 2023 9:53AM

Hey, I am Vysakh Premkumar A final year B.Tech Student from NIT Calicut. I'm interested in volunteering for helping maintaining diasp.in . Please let me know how I could contribute.

PP

Pirate Praveen Sun 24 Sep 2023 10:03AM

@Satan Vysakh Thanks for volunteering. As discussed on matrix, lets meet tonight and try to update the website.

SV

Satan Vysakh Sun 24 Sep 2023 11:31AM

@Pirate Praveen https://jitsi.debian.social/diaspmeet The Link for the Jitsi meet

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Athul Sun 24 Sep 2023 2:31PM

This is the poster designed by Surbhi during Debconf for call for the volunteers.

PP

Pirate Praveen Sun 24 Sep 2023 4:26PM

Text for the campaign and todo from today's meeting https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/diasp-in-public-call-text

PP

Pirate Praveen Sat 30 Sep 2023 6:58PM

So we have it on homepage, dedicated page with a volunteer form, thanks to @Satan Vysakh . I started promoting the call for help in prav group with this message "diasp.in, which shares our goals of providing private communication services to public and inspired prav to make different choices in community model, is looking for volunteers, https://diasp.in/volunteer if you can, please join, we can recommend diasp.in to people who can't afford our subscriptions (diasp.in also provide xmpp service and is interoperable with prav). I was part of the diasp.in team from the start." Please spread the word, a personal message rather than copy pasting a template would be more appealing I think.

PP

Pirate Praveen Wed 11 Oct 2023 9:39AM

@Satan Vysakh can we make the call for volunteers more prominent on the homepage? Also everyone else, please share this call for help in all relevant groups and from your personal social media handles - the more personal the call is the better.

PP

Pirate Praveen Fri 13 Oct 2023 9:46AM

We already have 3 volunteers, so I think we can plan the next steps. In my mind, these are 1. Setup backup (we will need a place to backup, we can use rdiff-backup with cron) 2. migrate to a smaller/cheaper host and validating the backup 3. Find sponsors and fiscal host for donations.

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