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Constitution amendment: Our position on women's freedom

Pirate Praveen Sat 30 Nov 2019 4:16PMPublicSeen by 157

I saw this post -> https://mastodon.social/@aworldinpages/103225247650283334 on Mastodon today and I wanted to have this as one of our basic principles.

Since we have to start somewhere, I am suggesting these words, but I'm sure we will come up with something better during discussions.

"Mainstream opinion on women's safety seems to put women solely responsible for their safety and always tend to blame the victim when any violence on women is reported. When society accepts it's easy to blame and treat women (the way people do) and get away with anything, that contributes to the violence women have to endure. We firmly believe it is the responsibility of the entire society to ensure safety of all women."

Pirate PraveenSun 29 Dec 2019 9:27AM

Night Walk for women seems like a good initiative from Kerala govt.

https://www.newsbricks.com/india/kerala-government-encourages-night-walk-for-women/29988

pirate kingSun 15 Dec 2019 8:39AM

Pirate PraveenSat 7 Dec 2019 5:49AM

One video shared by @Kannan V M https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V9ohcyWCTu0 on our matrix group. I think we should do a public demonstration (just hold placards with these points at a park). This will highlight points missed in the mainstream media and photos of actions on the street has value in online campaigns too. If we get connected to other people sharing these views, that is a bonus.

michael john sinclair.Thu 5 Dec 2019 6:51AM

I see 2 non inclusive words here,

Educated and Citizen are both a bad choice. If we replace with people young and old it could solve the dilemma

AkshayThu 5 Dec 2019 6:00AM

Basic principle: Indian Pirates stands for gender equality.

Specific action items/policy changes can be taken from SDG5 https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/sdg5

Specifically, there is "Eliminate all forms of violence against all women and girls in the public and private spheres, including trafficking and sexual and other types of exploitation"

How one should do that is a question that takes deliberation and deep work which we can do once we form the government.

Pirate BadyThu 5 Dec 2019 4:53AM

The entire structure of Indian society’s attitude towards women is rotten to the core. If you really want to make India safe for women, then watch your own behaviour every single minute of every single day and change it.

https://www.nationalheraldindia.com/india/the-rape-republic-hyderabad-horror-nirbhaya

Aiśwarya KKWed 4 Dec 2019 1:16PM

Now about freedom. Definitely I think all the living beings are born free. But then in the process of growing the society build chains inside us. We need to do things not to 'give' freedom to women because we are noone to 'give' freedom to another person, but each individual should realize their possibilities. So what we need to do is to create an 'environment' that help each individual to understand their chains and break it. The blog post from 2012 that you pointed has good material like you said. Other suggestions:

  1. Better gender friendly learning spaces

  2. Promote gender sensitive art

  3. Women in different caste and class have different issues, so identify it from community. For that there needs to be representations from all the possible levels. (Issues of poor Dalit women are highly different from rich brahmin women)

  4. Sex education for all

  5. Good mainstream discussions on related topics.

    Each topic has lot of subtopics. And if I think more it can be continued.

Aiśwarya KKWed 4 Dec 2019 12:52PM

Topic seems better now. Indeed women are at the recieving end of violence than men. But while we give a picture of women are always in danger (which is false), we are doing a big mistake of making women scared again and stopping them from even trying out things. And their male friends are also being stressed while women start to do brave things. Instead we need to accept that violent people are very small proportion of the population. We have choice either to be afraid of that small portion and rest inside our bubble or build confidence and start exploring (it's not easy but doable). If it is the male counterpart then choice either to be stressed about women's safety and control dear female friends and transmit fear in order to 'protect' them or try to support in a way the friend feels better.

Aiśwarya KKTue 3 Dec 2019 3:40PM

I am not sure that there are safety issues only specific to women. But for sure, the society play this scare tactics and use those terms to make stupid laws like time restrictions for ladies' hostel. If it is about sexual violence against women, then the name of the topic is not women's safety. Sexual violences are also not women specific, unfortunately children and other genders also suffer from that.

Anupa Ann JosephMon 2 Dec 2019 2:28PM

Hi, myself Anupa Ann Joseph. For those who doesn't know me I'm a 'woman' currently working at River Valley Technologies, Thiruvananthapuram. I'm taking part in this discussion as it was brought to my notice that the women participation in this thread is nil. As I am part of the community activities to support Women in Free Software, I've come across many girl students at various engineering colleges who couldn't get out their safety boundaries drawn by the society. I had personal discussions with women who would like to come out of this golden cage, but couldn't due to the safety concerns of their beloved ones. They have restrictions for travel, for late night outs and even jobs that may have night shifts, all of which the male citizens of this society enjoy without any restrictions. But I do agree with Abraham, all these discussions raising concerns about 'Freedom of Women' end up being the discussion between some men who have concerns about their fellow beings. Not just women, everyone should be safe. Everyone should have the right to speak up and to be heard, if their Freedom and Safety is violated. Unless women value their Freedom and right to stay safe wherever they are, 'we' are happy within the safety cage we are bound to be in. The fear of being judged by others can be a reason. Well girls, you should speak up to be heard.

PS: I don't have any intention to generalize my opinion, this is based on the discussions I had with Women across Kerala, where I have met some strong Women who enjoy their Freedom to the fullest as well. That makes me think its something related to our mentality towards this. And I do appreciate the effort by Indian Pirates to raise this issue to the public notice. We can work towards a better society.

Pardon me for the long note, couldn't make this any shorter.

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