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Sat 21 Nov 2020 10:46AM

Adopt a moderation policy for matrix room

A Akshay Public Seen by 82

Started this in loomio by mistake.

I think the Matrix room needs to be moderated. The following content should be removed by any admin:

1) Spam

2) Off-topic messages

3) Personal attacks and harassment

I think it should be left to the discretion of admins to define what that constitutes.

@Pirate Praveen said

I think we can build a code of conduct to cover codema as well. Probably build on https://fsci.in/code-of-conduct/ This would enable anyone in the group to decide if something is crossing what is acceptable. We should also probably define how to respond in cases of violation.

@piratekp said

2 and 3 are relative and should be well defined to avoid ambiguity.

DU

Deleted User Tue 15 Dec 2020 10:45AM

"given my name is bady, how'd you assume my gender? calling some person what they aren't, for eg. suppose someone calling you a leftist even if you aren't (just an example, i don't know your political alignment), is not a nice thing to do and can be avoided."

So if you are specific about reference on internet. Then you should mention it. In general, my eyes visual conformation is more than enough to refer someone with predominantly and correctly with pronouns like He/She. But, if anyone claimed to refer him with some fancy pronoun of their own personal choice (btw there are 40 plus fancy pronouns already floated in the market) Then I would use my personal freedom and choice, i.e, either to refer that person with that funky pronoun or ignore them completely...

PB

Pirate Bady Fri 18 Dec 2020 8:03PM

Exactly, my concerns are exactly same and opposite.. under the garb of "Hate Speech" crushing any voice which necessarily not follow the set pattern is purely a fascist/Communist way of thinking, not Democratic at all.

well, that's also a valid concern. it's not always black or white. which part of the proposed text you find as against free speech? what do you suggest instead? if someone raises a threat to someone's life, does it count as free speech? no freedom is absolute. a free country is not a country where one can kill anyone. freedom needs to be used responsibly.

DU

Deleted User Fri 18 Dec 2020 8:27PM

Free speech is absolute only till it not infringe upon my right to live or harm me physically, mentally or financially in any given sense..

But what if I link everything with mental harrasment. what if I don't like the way you think, your ideology and choice of your politics...

How far you ready to cater me? So I am not get offended by your act...

My suggestion is rather cut, copy & paste senselessly from US... Let us be Indian first and have some trust on ourselves.

We are unique yet United for so long. Must be we have something, what the World could learn from us rather we follow them like a sheep.

A

Akshay Sat 19 Dec 2020 12:49PM

Though a lot of stuff above has been copied, not all of the original is "from US". There are views from individuals from many parts of the world, including a large number of additions from Indians.

I don't find a lot of merit in not using an idea just because it originated in a different political boundary. Although, I'm sure if an idea is being transplanted from one place to another, it needs to be contextualized to apply to the new place.

What modifications would you suggest to the draft? Are you suggesting that there be no moderation policy at all?

PB

Pirate Bady Sun 10 Jan 2021 7:41PM

@Sah since no one "voted" against the proposal and you haven't responded further, the above code of conduct & moderation policy has been accepted.

F

Firescar Tue 12 Jan 2021 8:05PM

This moderation policy is a stepping stone towards censorship and compelled speech. Misgendering pronouns shouldn't be an offense.

PB

Pirate Bady Fri 5 Feb 2021 12:49PM

now that we have a CoC in place, we need a CoC team to moderate CoC violations. i think only permanent members should be in the CoC team. or at least one should be an associate and needs to be vouched by two or more permanent members. what do you think?

KVM

Kannan V M Fri 5 Feb 2021 12:59PM

I think there should be a procedure for moderation. One person deleting messages, muting someone or banning someone can bring some unnecessary backlash. I think there should be a procedure that involves
multiple committee members at least for banning/kicking someone.

PB

Pirate Bady Sat 6 Feb 2021 4:51PM

agreed. do you have any suggestions about how that procedure should be?

PP

Pirate Praveen Sun 21 Mar 2021 4:41AM

How about this,

  1. Any one violating CoC will be warned by a permanent member.

  2. If the violation is repeated, there will be a reminder to stop, twice.

  3. If the violation continues, they can be banned from participating in discussions.

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