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Add to manifesto: Ban use of EVMs in elections and go back to paper ballots

Pirate PraveenPirate Praveen Thu 16 Mar 2017 4:20AMPublicSeen by 441

EVMs cannot be trusted because there is no way to verify the results. We have no idea how the software is written and even if the source code is available, we cannot verify if the same binary is running on the machine.

Update: At the minimum there has to be a paper trail which can be machine counted

Some discussion about technology and voting https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/21/pirate-party-online-voting-4chan-government

Sooraj Kenoth

Sooraj KenothThu 16 Mar 2017 7:20AM

I deny @manojkmohan opinion. Even if the code or hardware is public we don't have any mechanism to ensure the code inside the machine is the same as published.

I support @gounder 's opinion. We don't need to ban the tools or systems. We need a mechanism to ensure the system is fool proof.

Sooraj Kenoth

Sooraj KenothThu 16 Mar 2017 8:12AM

We can have a micro printer(Not thermal) connected to the EVM. It will print the exact sign of the candidate who got once vote. So one card will contain only one sign, so voter can confirms his vote. The voter can put the card in ballet secretly. When ever there is a allegation we can count the number of cards with the help of a scanning Machine.

Pirate Vik

Pirate VikThu 16 Mar 2017 5:54PM

It seems like going backwards, I don't think counting paper ballots was always accurate / safe / not corruptable. How about defining votes as transactions and using blockchain to store them. These guys are doing it: https://followmyvote.com/online-voting-technology/blockchain-technology/

Pirate Praveen

Pirate PraveenFri 17 Mar 2017 8:49AM

This could be an option. The question is about being able to verify the results. But doesn't blockchain technology require internet connection everywhere? Then securing each node can be a challenge. It will need more analysis and can be considered for future. But that is not a reason to support current unverifiable EVMs.

Pirate Bady

Pirate BadyFri 17 Mar 2017 4:14AM

An article on the same topic that appeared in today's (17/03/2017) mathrubhumi newspaper:
http://digitalpaper.mathrubhumi.com/m/1138644/Thrissur/17-March-2016#issue/8/1

Pirate Praveen

Pirate PraveenFri 17 Mar 2017 8:58AM

Pirate Praveen

Pirate PraveenWed 5 Apr 2017 10:12AM

Now with video, the evidence of tampering http://www.deccanherald.com/content/604227/evm-registers-only-bjp-votes.html (just adding here for completeness).

Pirate Bady

Pirate BadySun 16 Apr 2017 7:46PM

this has been added to the Manifesto (page 3)

Pirate Praveen

Pirate PraveenSun 14 May 2017 11:57AM

In the last friday's call we discussed about AAP's demonstration of voter machine fraud. I thought it would a good idea for us to write an article to clarify our opposition to current form of EVMs, publish it on our site and spread it widely. I have started it here, please contribute https://pad.disroot.org/p/EVMs

Pirate Radio Podcasts

Pirate Radio PodcastsSat 22 Jul 2017 12:27PM

HELL YA! Damn EVMs can be HACKED in under a minute - utterly mind boggling