Add to manifesto: Ban use of EVMs in elections and go back to paper ballots
Pirate Praveen Thu 16 Mar 2017 4:20AMPublicSeen by 441EVMs cannot be trusted because there is no way to verify the results. We have no idea how the software is written and even if the source code is available, we cannot verify if the same binary is running on the machine.
Update: At the minimum there has to be a paper trail which can be machine counted
Some discussion about technology and voting https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/21/pirate-party-online-voting-4chan-government
Add to manifesto: Restore trust in election process
proposal by Pirate Praveen Closed Wed 29 Mar 2017 6:01AM
We have consensus here and 4 permanent members voted for the proposal
Election process should be beyond doubt and being able to verify the correctness of vote count is a basic requirement. Current Electronic Voting Machines (EVMs) does not have a verifications mechanism and makes any kind of tampering impossible to detect. We have to blindly trust there was no tampering.
We will ensure that
a) all EVMs will have a Voter Verifiable Paper Trail (a receipt printed by the EVM which can be put into a ballot box)
or
b) go back to paper ballots
to restore trust in election process.
With a paper trail, voters can verify the correctness of their votes and a manual counting of these paper receipts will make it possible to detect any kind of tampering in case of doubt.
Results
| Results | Option | Votes | % of votes cast | % of eligible voters | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Agree | 7 | 100 | 5 |   | |
| Abstain | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| Disagree | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| Block | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| Undecided | 127 | 95 |              |
Pirate Praveen
Sun 19 Mar 2017 6:01AM
yes, trust in election process is required for democracy and being able to verify results is critical in that.
Pirate BadySun 19 Mar 2017 6:06AM
Paper trail seems to be a good idea!
Shanavas MSun 19 Mar 2017 6:11AM
Great idea
[deactivated account]Tue 21 Mar 2017 5:19AM
If not ban, atleast a paper trail would be better for accountability
Pirate PraveenThu 16 Mar 2017 4:59AM
But yes, if the hardware design and software is available to public, we have a better chance of finding the backdoors/vulnerabilities.
Sooraj KenothThu 16 Mar 2017 7:20AM
I deny @manojkmohan opinion. Even if the code or hardware is public we don't have any mechanism to ensure the code inside the machine is the same as published.
I support @gounder 's opinion. We don't need to ban the tools or systems. We need a mechanism to ensure the system is fool proof.
Sooraj KenothThu 16 Mar 2017 8:12AM
We can have a micro printer(Not thermal) connected to the EVM. It will print the exact sign of the candidate who got once vote. So one card will contain only one sign, so voter can confirms his vote. The voter can put the card in ballet secretly. When ever there is a allegation we can count the number of cards with the help of a scanning Machine.
Pirate VikThu 16 Mar 2017 5:54PM
It seems like going backwards, I don't think counting paper ballots was always accurate / safe / not corruptable. How about defining votes as transactions and using blockchain to store them. These guys are doing it: https://followmyvote.com/online-voting-technology/blockchain-technology/
Manoj Karingamadathil ·Thu 16 Mar 2017 4:40AM
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