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Sat 20 Jun 2020 3:18PM

Constitution Ammedment: Add a Preamble

AR Abraham Raji Public Seen by 56

Add a preamble explaining who we are, what our purpose and what makes us different. I would suggest adding the first two slides which are 'Why Indian Pirates?' and 'Fix what's broken' to the preamble. Preamble would give a proper context upon which the constitution could be read. Let's discuss the above questions and add them to our constitution.

AR

Abraham Raji Sat 20 Jun 2020 3:23PM

Here's something we discussed while planning the changes to be made to the website

  • Who are we?

     We are a small group of individuals engaging in political activities with the aim of becoming a political party some day*.

  • What is special about us?

    We are not a family controlled party, we are also not a cadre party, everyone has a voice, every decisions we make is public (transparency), our funding source is public.

PP

Pirate Praveen Sun 21 Jun 2020 4:21PM

Agree. So we can have Preamble with these sections. Should we put everything in preamble without splitting it to articles or split like below? Preamble, Article 1: Who are we?, Article 2: Why Indian Pirates? Article 3: What is special about us? Article 4: Fix what is broken.

PB

Pirate Bady Sun 21 Jun 2020 7:45PM

this reminds me of a previous thread https://codema.in/d/hFHxr4Co/the-pirates-constitution. i think we can still take valid points from it. also, i think some of the points in the beginning of the Constitution needs more clarification.

PB

Pirate Bady Sun 21 Jun 2020 8:12PM

here's a criticism of the Constitution i wrote years ago: https://papers.goblinrefuge.com/u/ambadyanands/m/criticisms-and-suggestions-on-indian-pirates-constitution/
(try this link if the above one doesn't work).

i think it's a good time to discuss them again.

PP

Pirate Praveen Tue 30 Jun 2020 9:21PM

Please propose them as individual amendments.

PP

Poll Created Tue 30 Jun 2020 9:27PM

Constitution amendment: Add a preamble Closed Tue 7 Jul 2020 9:00PM

Outcome
by Pirate Praveen Wed 8 Jul 2020 1:38AM

We are going with the amendment suggested by @Syam G Krishnan but open to better wordings in future.

Create a Preamble and add,

  • Who are we?

     We are a small group of individuals engaging in political activities with the aim of becoming a political party some day*.

  • Why Indian Pirates? Fix What is Broken. (Move existing sections under this).

  • What is special about us?

    We are not a family controlled party, we are also not a cadre party, everyone has a voice, every decisions we make is public (transparency), our funding source is public.

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 40.0% 2 EN PP
Abstain 60.0% 3 SGK PB A
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 167 V A D K DU AS MK SK NV BC FGP AR AK AG AKS RD J KAK SK S

5 of 172 people have participated (2%)

PB

Pirate Bady
Abstain
Sun 5 Jul 2020 8:01PM

I feel like the language could be made more formalized and unambiguous. But I don't want to block this because we can always discuss it later and keep making it better.

A

Akshay
Abstain
Tue 7 Jul 2020 4:03AM

I've no idea how to form a political party.

SGK

Syam G Krishnan
Abstain
Tue 7 Jul 2020 8:11AM

prefer to go with we are a group of people 
also, language can be improved later as @Pirate Bady mentioned

PP

Pirate Praveen Wed 8 Jul 2020 1:35AM

@Pirate Bady we will go with these for now, please suggest better wordings. @Syam G Krishnan I think that change can be made. @Akshay the prerequisite is at least 100 people in a state, so we are quite a long way from that. Once we have that we may have to adjust our constitution to match the requirements of Election Commission of India. Once 100 people sign a resolution to form a party with a constitution compliant with Election Commission's requirements, we become a registered political party.

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