Sun 13 Sep 2015 6:36AM

What is our position on the use of the death penalty?

PV Pirate Vik Public Seen by 342

Indian Pirates should oppose the use of the death penalty. Legal systems are fraught with inefficiency, lack of fairness and outright corruption. In this scenario can we really support a system that provides an irreversible conclusion?
Law changes over time, we cannot bring back the dead who's acts are no longer deemed illegal.


Vidyut Tue 22 Sep 2015 11:24AM

Thank you @vik. I am convinced. Like I said, I would prefer even a lack of punishment. There is a need to separate justice from revenge.

There are ways miscarriage of justice can be prevented and there is miscarriage of justice in all sorts of punishments. I am merely making points I find somewhat unique to how I think to add to the thought flow.

I'd be happy if the death penalty were done away with. I am merely saying that I accept there are reasons to accept it under unique circumstances. I think there is an urgent need to make the law equal for people who are supposedly equal before it. When the law is not equal, then the death penalty actually becomes a weapon of communal hate - which in my view is even more dangerous than the death penalty alone - a state with laws perverted against some citizens and in favor of others is what we have right now.


Pirate Vik Thu 24 Sep 2015 3:58PM

Interestingly Pope Francis is addressing the US Congress today on this topic.

"Pope calls on Congress to help abolish the death penalty

The pontiff’s speech continues to address many of what in ordinary circumstances would be considered “third rails” in American politics. Now, he sets his sights on the death penalty.

“The Golden Rule” - “do unto others as you would have them do unto you”, from Matthew chapter 7, verse 12 - “also reminds us of our responsibility to protect and defend human life at every stage of its development,” he says."


Pirate Vik Mon 5 Oct 2015 10:13AM


Pirate Vik Tue 27 Oct 2015 5:15PM

@rajudvindane @gounder @abhijithb @akshay @arjun looking for some more views on this - what do you guys say?


Akshay Tue 27 Oct 2015 5:36PM

I certainly don't believe in 'eye for an eye'. But I have no idea how to think about issues like this which are full of complications of culture, psychology, psychopathology, etc.


[deactivated account] Tue 27 Oct 2015 6:41PM

same here ..i get in a fix when im asked about stuff like this.. Cuz im not really sure .. my question is , what is the alternative? 'An eye for an eye' - I do not stand by it as well.. I also feel that the death penalty is no terror deterrent.. but I doubt if I'd feel the same way if it were to affect me.. for instance, how do you convince a person who has lost his family to a murderer that the best way to resolve the issue would be to simply put the perpetrator behind bars for a very long time? ..


Pirate Praveen Tue 27 Oct 2015 7:31PM

@arjun there are two different things here. One getting convinced yourself and convincing others. You don't have to accept only things that you can convince others. Then we can never change anything. Also it is ignoring your own capacity to think and decide yourself.


Akshay Tue 27 Oct 2015 7:34PM

But you see, here, the very choice of our position depends on what works for the society.


Pirate Praveen Tue 27 Oct 2015 7:38PM

@akshay changing society is a an after effect of more people getting convinced.

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