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Public concerns on Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA) and National Register of Citizens (NRC)

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What follows below is a compilation of concerns both for and against CAA & NRC from different people with different opinions. For Indian Pirates, before making a public statement on these issues, it's important to answer these first.

On granting citizenship based on religions from selected countries:

Against: Only Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, Jain, Parsi, and Christian religious minorities from the neighboring Muslim majority countries of Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan are considered while Muslims are avoided. This is against secularism, Article 14 and the spirit of the Indian Constitution because it discriminates people based on religion.

For: This is not against Article 14 because it permits classification, so long as it is 'reasonable' and the reason here's the protection of persecuted minorities of the neighboring theocratic states based on historical reasons. If it was non-secular and against Indian Constitution then Supreme Court would have issued a stay, but it didn't.

On the government's intent to protect the persecuted minorities:

Against: If protection of persecuted minorities was the actual intent, then the refugees consisting of Rohingyan muslims of Myanmar, Ahmadiyya muslims of Pakistan, Tamil Elams of Sri Lanks and Atheists are all persecuted minorities and should have covered under CAA but they aren't.

For: Rohingyans and Tamil people of Sri Lanka have found to be associated with extremist armed forces and are hence dangerous to be included in CAA. (Haven't heard proper arguments justifying why Ahmadiyya's and Atheist's are excluded, comment if you've came across of any).

On the protests against CAA and NRC:

Against: NRC in Assam should be considered as a special case based on historical reasons, it doesn't mean that Nation-wide NRC will be same as the way it is proposed in Assam. Current protests are led by extremist islamic groups to show their strength using violence, either directly or by indirectly influencing a larger group of people via propagation of unnecessary FUD.

For: Protests are led by people from different backgrounds and beliefs, including students, to protect the values of Indian Constitution such as equality, secularism and prohibition of discrimination.

Updates:

We already came up with a crowd-sourced statement but missed to publish it on the website on time. The statement is as follows:

We, Indian Pirates, believe all human beings are equal in dignity and rights. We believe that everyone should be able to enjoy the right to life, liberty and security of person. India for centuries has always welcomed the persecuted, regardless of their religion. That has been our tradition. In this matter, we have remained a nation of righteousness. When a person seeks Indian citizenship, that is an act by their choice. And this step towards a better life should never go through a sieve based on religion. A person's identity is many things, but not restricted to their religion. And for many, religion is not even a part of their Identity. The current government has incessantly tried to reduce one's identity to their religion. CAA/NRC discriminates based on religion and place of birth. Place of birth and often, one's religion are not by choice. May be this communal raj can only see a person through the lens of religion. But that is not how an empathetic Indian would.

In India, Citizenship allows a person to be part of its democratic framework and enables them to enjoy civil rights guaranteed by the Constitution for Citizens of India. Citizenship is considered the right to have rights. Being able to take part in the system that designs the laws of the society we belong to (including voting rights and engaging in political activities) is the most essential of them. Thus Citizenship is an important identity for a person to enjoy their most fundamental right, domestic and international, with respect to the country a person resides.

Since citizenship grants rights defined by the Constitution to those who qualify, granting of citizenship is also susceptible for exploitation. It is necessary to put reasonable restrictions on granting citizenship to ensure the security of its existing citizens and not hurt their rights enshrined in the Constitution. There is already an existing procedure to apply for citizenship in India with reasonable restrictions. But this doesn't apply in the case of refugees that come to India facing persecutions of various kinds who cannot wait for a citizenship through the procedures defined.

It is our responsibility to make definitions for what should be a reasonable classification for this case considering human rights of refugees, which should be easy enough since the Article 14 of our Constitution already provides base for a reasonable classification.

  1. The classification is based upon intelligible differentia that distinguishes persons or things that are grouped from others that are left out of the group, and,

  1. The differential has a rational relation with the objective of the act.

The Citizenship Amendment Act, as it is enacted, can not be considered to uphold Human Rights Internationally or National interests. We believe that the classification currently adopted is not based on intelligible differentia as it doesn't classify on the basis of all persecuted minorities  and is an attempt to introduce religious bias in an issue of Human Rights. It creates a dual standard in the rule of law.

Pirates understand the act itself is in contradiction with the Article 14 of the Constitution which promises equality before law and it challenges the basic features of the Constitution—equality and secularism. We recognize the ill effects of this act can create a scar on our unity. With above said reasons, we believe the act is unconstitutional and Indian Pirates rejects the Citizenship Amendment Act 2019.

As an alternative to this act, Indian Pirates suggests to form a definition for refugee in accordance to United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) and to derive an impartial legislation to relax the process for citizenship for all refugees.

A NRC with the backing of CAA, as defined by the Home minister of Union government, will be discriminatory and will change the demographics of our country. We believe such a NRC is not in line with principles put forward by our constitution and we urge the people of India to not to cooperate with the attempts to implement such a citizenship register.

We believe the undergoing NPR can be used to create a nationwide NRC similar to NRC implemented in Assam ( the pretest form of NPR clearly asks for information about parents and their birth ) and we urge the people of India to not to cooperate with data collection for NPR. 

Also the documents used to provide data requested about parents (as seen in pretest forms of NPR) is going to affect the poor of this nation, irrespective of their religion, who has not received or have the documents to prove their identity. The inability to grant proper documents is a failure of governance. Instead of recognizing that problem, nationwide NRC will put the responsibility on its citizens to prove their identity. It should be the duty of the government to recognize its citizens, not the responsibility of people to prove their citizenship to the government.

We appreciate state governments which announced indefinite halt on NPR and urge all state governments to follow.

Pirates recognize and condemn BJP's attempts to divide the nation in the name of religion and by spreading messages of hatred. We condemn  Prime Minister of India for misleading the people of India and we urge Union government to answer the queries of the people about CAA, nationwide NRC and NPR through a credible source.

Pirates condemn the attempts to silence the voice of people of India by imposing IPC Section 144, travel restrictions and through internet shutdowns. We believe this is an attack on rights promised by Article 19 of Constitution of India. Internet is a basic necessity which is needed for the proper functioning of a society; depriving of access to internet is not only violation the right to expression, but also is against right to life and liberty.

Pirates condemn the excessive and disproportionate use of violence by police. We observe police itself is breaking the law and protocols to incite violence on people. [We condemn the unlawful activities by police and ask for a special investigation on the atrocities by police.] We condemn the unlawful detentions and the restriction of lawful rights for the detainees.

A detention center for those who are not listed in a nationwide NRC with presence of current CAA would be a detention center for Muslims, this is grim reminder of what Nazi Germany did to Jews. We believe detention centers are a violation of Human Rights.

We, Indian Pirates, observe this citizenship register as an effort by BJP and RSS to convert Republic of India into a fascist hindutva rashtra. This act is not an issue related to some minority religions of India, but an open attack on the constitutional values that protect our rights. We believe defending our constitution and its principles are our duty. Indian Pirates, urge the people of India to occupy the streets peacefully to show your protest and actively take part in politics and elections in order to protect our constitution.

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Akshay Sat 21 Dec 2019 1:54AM

I think a rational analysis is an overkill as the government doesn't work on rationality anymore. For example, in the FAQ purported to be from government they say that NRC is "merely" a "normal" process of adding name to a register. And these are "reasons" enough for many people to say the government is doing right.

The point I try to make is that logic is not the basis of the debate/protest.

The basis of the debate/protest is that the current government's ideology is to have a Hindu nation and everything that they are doing is playing in line with that. (Whereas the India we love is a secular nation).

PK

pirate king Sat 21 Dec 2019 4:29AM

What would be our stand on demographic changes due to migration?

Indian constitution afaik doesn't restrict movement and such through article 19.

MJS

michael john sinclair. Sat 21 Dec 2019 11:07AM

If the Hindus keep pushing there cause they will recieve the opposite in the future, they have their hype phase atm but for how long? China is also putting Muslims in Camps,

Nationalisum will be the last stand before Globalisium. At a Global scale hindus are a minority against muslims so this will repeated at global level when we get that far peacefully.

Could it be possible that India is going down this road because China is doing the same and getting away with it?

PP

Pirate Praveen Fri 27 Dec 2019 5:40PM

We will be meeting in Thalassery this Sunday evening to work on some CAA/NRC/NPR materials (FAQ, statement urging people to boycott, states to stop NPR etc, and pamphlet). Those who cannot come can join us online.

PP

Poll Created Fri 27 Dec 2019 5:42PM

Would you be able to join us on Sunday 29th Dec at Thalassery? Closed Sun 29 Dec 2019 11:02AM

We will be meeting in Thalassery this Sunday evening to work on some CAA/NRC/NPR materials (FAQ, statement urging people to boycott, states to stop NPR etc, and pamphlet). You can join online or meet at other places if you can't make it to Thalassery.

Results

Results Option Voters
Yes 4 SA PB KVM PP
No 2 KSK J
Undecided 161 DU AS MK SK NV BC FGP AR AK AG AKS RD J KAK SK S MKT NAJ PS AA

6 of 167 people have participated (3%)

PP

Pirate Praveen Sat 28 Dec 2019 7:35AM

We can use https://pad.disroot.org/p/NoCAANoNRCNoNPR for drafting these documents.

SV

Sai Vishal Mon 30 Dec 2019 3:40PM

Hi everyone

This was one of the Better FAQ that I have come across. Please do let me know your thoughts.

SV

Sai Vishal Mon 30 Dec 2019 8:30PM

We should also remove the word persecuted from any further CAB disscusion as the Bill doesn't mention persecution.

PP

Pirate Praveen Tue 31 Dec 2019 9:18AM

This talk by Kannan Gopinathan is powerful https://invidio.us/watch?v=DBiIhhKk3_8 we should include a link to this talk in our statement.

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