DEPHCOM

Creating a collective on Open Collective

Pirate Praveen Mon 4 Nov 2024 9:33PMPublicSeen by 22

Now that we have a list of high priority tasks and want to raise funds, we should create a collective on OpenCollective.com The default fiscal host for Free Software projects is Open Source Collective, but they usually expect a classic project and not a "meta" project like ours I think. Also they charge a fee of 10% or close to it. Should we ask someone already into Free Software mobile like Purism or FuriLabs or Pine64, if they are willing to be fiscal host without charging a fee, as it would directly benefit them? OpenCollective allows any legal entity to be a fiscal host and handle finances.

Pirate PraveenSat 5 Apr 2025 2:00PM

Thanks for your response.

Before we move forward with accepting your community, I have one quick request: would you be open to revising your account name? I’m bringing this up not to be nitpicky, but because I want to help prevent potential issues down the line Let me explain.

Right now, “Fund Phosh on Debian for Mobile” feels more like a campaign or call to action than the name of a collective or working group. To avoid any confusion, especially around whether this effort is officially tied to the Phosh or Debian projects, we’d recommend something a bit less campaign-focused and more reflective of the community behind the work. Something even like “Phosh on Debian for Mobile Community Group” or “ - User Group” (or something a bit catchier than those examples!) could work well.

If you decide on a noun vs verb name, you can always get more specific about the actual campaign on your Open Collective page, especially by creating Projects to highlight a particular goal.

As a fiscal host, it’s important to us that it’s clear we’re not funding official project development or speaking on behalf of those maintainers. A more neutral name will help avoid misunderstandings and make it clearer we’re not stepping on the toes of other organizations that may already be supporting the official projects. Another perk of having a neutral name is if you need to enter into any type of agreement or contract, which would help avoid legal confusion. Let us know your thoughts.

We need to find a new name for the collective.

New name for this community / project

ranked choice by Pirate Praveen Closed Sun 13 Apr 2025 8:00AM

Outcome

by Badri Sunderarajan Sun 13 Apr 2025 4:30PM

PhoMo has come out as the top candidate in this poll! We can start using this as our community/project name instead of the somewhat unwieldy "Debian on Mobile (with Phosh) Funding" or "Fund Phosh on Debian for Mobile" that we've been using in places. As the priority of this project remains unchanged, maybe we can move that to the description instead.

In the meantime, we can respond to Open Collective saying we've chosen PhoMo as the our name and are in the progress of updating it across our channels.

What is this poll about?

Open Collective suggested renaming to avoid confusion by explicitly making this a community in the name also.

Why is this important?

This will help us raise funds via opencollective.com

What are you asking people to do?

Arrange name in your order of preference.

Vote by ranking the options in order of your preference. The option that ranks first in the results wins.

Results

Option

Rank

% of points

Points

Mean

Voters

PhoMo

DEPHCOM

Phobian

PhoDe

DePho

Undecided

13 of 33 votes cast (39% participation)

Badri SunderarajanSun 6 Apr 2025 8:37AM

1 - PhoMo

2 - Phobian

3 - PhoDe

4 - DePho

5 - DEPHCOM

After re-reading the discussions I actually like PhoMo after all. It has many (fun) layers of meaning to it. The only concern was reopening the debate about whether to support other platforms besides Phosh/Debian. But if we state our position clearly in the description I don't think that'd be an issue.

Phobian also has a nice ring to it, although hopefully it won't be mistaken for another distro!

Not sure about the other three; they're all usable but there's nothing to them that stands out to me.

Jan VlugSun 6 Apr 2025 8:37AM

1 - PhoMo

2 - Phobian

3 - DEPHCOM

4 - DePho

5 - PhoDe

I like the funny aspect of PhoMo, also I think this name is easy to remember. And, the Mo part clearly refers to mobile devices. I like Phobian as well, but it might be a bit too confusing for people with Mobian. I have no strong preference for the remaining three, but put still put them in order of my preference.

hello_fellow_humansSun 6 Apr 2025 8:37AM

1 - DEPHCOM

2 - PhoDe

3 - DePho

4 - PhoMo

5 - Phobian

DEPHCOM sounds cool

Rémi LetotSun 6 Apr 2025 8:37AM

1 - PhoMo

2 - PhoDe

3 - DePho

4 - DEPHCOM

5 - Phobian

Really I'm only considering PhoMo and PhoDe, with a strong preference for PhoMo.

I would remove the others if I could: DePho means a defect in French, DEPHCOM is far too military, and phobian sounds like a mix between phobia and Mobian...

Pirate PraveenMon 14 Apr 2025 8:53AM

@Badri Sunderarajan there is another collective by the name Phomo! So we need to add some more (special) characters or go with second choice (dephcom is not taken). May be another poll? Pho-Mo vs Pho_Mo vs Phomos vs PhosMo vs PhomoFund vs Dephcom

New name for this community/project (because the one we chose is taken!)

poll by Badri Sunderarajan Closed Tue 22 Apr 2025 3:00PM

Outcome

by Badri Sunderarajan Wed 23 Apr 2025 5:39AM

DEPHCOM is a clear winner! We can move forward with registering this name on Open Collective (as well as eventually renaming our current forum and chatspaces accordingly).