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Tue 4 Aug 2020 7:37PM

Publish a statement demanding fast-tracking Babri demolition trial

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“Respecting” the SC verdict on Ayodhya does NOT mean whitewashing the fact that the Babri Masjid was demolished illegally & that a criminal case is ongoing.

Instead of trying to outdo Hindutva, “secular” leaders should demand that the Babri demolition trial be fast-tracked.

https://twitter.com/SaketGokhale/status/1290532356688760834

Indian Pirates agree with Saketh Gokhale and demand the Babri demolition trial be fast-tracked.

PP

Poll Created Tue 4 Aug 2020 7:38PM

Publish a statement demanding fast-tracking Babri demolition trial Closed Tue 11 Aug 2020 8:00PM

Outcome
by Pirate Praveen Wed 12 Aug 2020 11:44AM

We can publish it and requested web team here https://gitlab.com/piratemovin/piratesite/-/issues/8

Proposal edited on Saturday Augyst 8th after an audio meeting with @Pirate Praveen @piratekp @Pirate Bady and @Kannan V M :

Supreme court has ruled that the demolition and 1949 desecration of the Babri Masjid as a violation of law[1].

Liberahn Commission report holds 68 people culpable involving senior BJP leaders. A commission that was started in 1992 and an ever lagging case seeing no justice in case that has led to communal riots, is no good for a secular state. We demand a fast track trial and bring the culprits to justice. With how current affairs around Ayodhya temple is going on, it feels like a whitewashing[2] of the crimes commited.

We are alarmed that the opposition is playing soft hindutva in this matter and is welcoming acts towards breaking the secular nature of our country. We expect better from the opposition in this regard like the CPI(M)'s statement[3].

Is is appropriate for a Prime minister of a nation, on behalf of entirety of its population, to compare Ram Mandir Pooja to Freedom Struggle when it was built on violence and ended up in a communal riot that killed thousands?[4]

As PM Modi talks about ram rajya and protecting the one who seeks refuge, we would like to know if all refugees are welcome in this ram rajya of BJP?

In closing we would like to share this poem by Rabindranath Tagore.

"Deeno Daan" or "There is no God in that temple." [5][6]

“There is no god in that temple”, said the Saint.
The King was enraged;
“No God? Oh Saint, aren’t you speaking like an atheist?
On the throne studded with priceless gems, beams the golden idol,
And yet, you proclaim that’s empty?”
“It’s not empty; It’s rather full of the Royal pride.
You have bestowed yourself, oh King, not the God of this world”,
Remarked the saint.
The King frowned, “2 million golden coins
Were showered on that grand structure that kisses the sky,
I offered it to the Gods after performing all the necessary rituals,
And you dare claim that in such a grand temple,
There is no presence of God”?
The Saint calmly replied, “in the very year in which, twenty million of your subjects were struck by a terrible drought;
The pauperized masses without any food or shelter,
came begging at your door crying for help, only to be turned away,
they were forced to take refuge in forests, caves, camping under roadside foliages, derelict old temples;
and in that very year
when you spent 2 million gold to build that grand temple of your's,
that was the day when God pronounced:
“My eternal home is lit by everlasting lamps,
In the midst of an azure sky,
In my home the foundations are built with the values:
Of Truth, Peace, Compassion and Love.
The poverty stricken puny miser,
Who could not provide shelter to his own homeless subjects,
Does he really fancy of giving me a home?”
That is the day God left that Temple of yours.
And joined the poor beside the roads, under the trees.
Like emptiness of the froth in the vast seas,
Your mundane temple is as hollow.
It’s just a bubble of wealth and pride.’
The enraged King howled,
“oh you sham cretin of a person,
Leave my kingdom this instant’.
The Saint replied calmly,
“The very place where you have exiled the Divine,
Kindly banish the devout too".

Referrences:

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Supreme_Court_verdict_on_Ayodhya_dispute

[2] https://twitter.com/SaketGokhale/status/1290532356688760834

[3] https://cpim.org/pressbriefs/ayodhya-let-trust-do-its-job

[4] https://swarajyamag.com/politics/full-text-of-pm-modis-speech-at-ram-mandir-bhoomi-pujan

[5] https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/ram-mandir-why-120-year-old-tagore-poem-going-viral-130168

[6] https://www.telegraphindia.com/opinion/enduring-echoes-the-universal-truth-of-art/cid/1788610

Edit on August 10: Added reference 6, article by The Telegraph, to Tagore's poem

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 100.0% 7 EN TMB S PK PB KVM PP
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 166 V A D K DU DU MK SK NV BC FGP AR AK AG AKS RD J KAK SK S

7 of 173 people have participated (4%)

PK

pirate king
Agree
Thu 6 Aug 2020 1:24PM

I think a short statement of where we stand would do.

KVM

Kannan V M Thu 6 Aug 2020 1:28PM

I think we should make a statement on Babri Masjid Demolition and building of Ram Temple. A general statement is due. This could be a section in it along with our stand, criticism against judiciary and criticism against other political entities.

PP

Pirate Praveen Thu 6 Aug 2020 4:32PM

OK I have extended the poll to 5 more days, let's work on a detailed statement.

KVM

Poll Created Fri 7 Aug 2020 12:46PM

Online meeting on August 8, 8pm Closed Sat 8 Aug 2020 1:00PM

Outcome
by Pirate Praveen Sat 8 Aug 2020 5:30PM

We met via audio call and came up with a draft statement

We can have an online meeting to make public statement demanding fast tracking Babri Masjid Demolition trial. Who all will be participating?

Results

Results Option Voters
Yes 2 KVM PP
No 0  
Undecided 171 V A D K DU DU MK SK NV BC FGP AR AK AG AKS RD J KAK SK S

2 of 173 people have participated (1%)

PP

Pirate Praveen Sun 9 Aug 2020 7:00PM

https://www.telegraphindia.com/opinion/enduring-echoes-the-universal-truth-of-art/cid/1788610 this confirms the authenticity of the poem. This is a good article, may be we can quote it as well.

PB

Pirate Bady Fri 14 Aug 2020 4:45PM