Proposed edit to our constitution

@michaeljohnsinclai can you describe the distinction you are making? as in with perhaps an example that would be the problem with stating civil rights instead of human rights?

@vidyut I also think human rights is better. It is broader than civil rights.

I am fine with changing civil rights to human rights too. This was basically a copy paste from wikipedia to represent the standard understanding of pirate party goals. But I don't know if this needs a new vote, or we're good to go with this one. I also don't know why this is ending in 24 hours. It isn't an urgent thing, IMO.

@vidyut the default end date for a vote is 3 days. I suggest you increase it. I think 7 days should be minimum.

@vidyut once we get a consensus here, it has to be approved by "voting members".

Yes @praveenarimbrathod figured out the date thing. Extended this to end of the month.

So when we put it for approval by voting members, we can change it to human rights with disclosure? Or should I make an edit now with disclosure?

@vidyut "information privacy" could be changed to "personal information/communications privacy" or it may appear conflicting with "freedom of information".

Agree with this too, @praveenarimbrathod. Makes sense.

@vidyut also transparency should be clarified to "transparent government".

@vidyut it may be better to mention "accountability as a reason for demanding transparency and freedom of information" (btw these two are very similar goals). Otherwise people confuse privacy and transparency. Many times they ask "why you want privacy when you demand transparency from government". The direction of accountability has to be made explicit.

@vidyut we can collect maximum inputs first and then open another vote here with agreed changes before putting it through voting members.

@praveenarimbrathod like how you are refining this. I agree. Do you want to recommend a replacement sentence?

The difference between Human and civil rights is that civil rights are only for Indian citizens where as Humanrights are for everyone who lives in India,People Live in India pay taxes their, but they are not citizens.

Good point, @michaeljohnsinclai I agree it human rights should be present. Now I am thinking that both civil rights and human rights should be present.

Human rights, civil rights is nationalistic, excluding all people in India who have no citizenship of India, Pirates are for Inclusion.

Agree on human rights. I think civil rights should be there as well. India has massive problems with appropriation of civil rights in the name of "development". Mass displacements in the name of large projects, inadequate compensation, policies that push the poor into debt and more.

Many of these things are the right of a citizen from the state or duty of the state toward citizens.

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Add this to constitution, so people have some clarity on our goals.

modus operandi

• talk to as many people as possible about us, choose any idea you are comfortable with
• form policies on as many issues as possible
• once we have at least a 100 people who want to form a party, register as a party

Hello,

"participation in government", could also be missunderstood, in other constitutions most pirates say they are activists forced to be politicians and to govern is not a Pirate aim, it is more like that all Citizens become the Goverment.

Pirate regards
Mickey sinclair